Google shooting themselves in the foot: Blog-farms raise to the top

by Veit Schenk

in Internet Marketing Tools

Hey there,

you’ll LOVE this one.

In February 2011 or thereabouts Google “updated” their algorithm, in an effort to stamp out spammy, scammy and overly “made for adsense” oriented behaviour.

As part of this they did punish websites such as ezinearticles and other article directories, which kinda makes sense in some sense, because they are really just about making adsense revenue for the guys running the sites (well, ok, and getting some backlinks to our sites;-)

Well, overall Google does NOT like artifical backlinking, especially when they’re built using automated internet marketing tools like SENuke or SEO Link Robot.

Or super-duper especially when they’re built on something called blog-farms like e.g. SEO Linkvine.

Basically, blog-farms are large collections of blogs run by one person or one company, and they provide a central interface from which you can submit articles to all of the blogs in the network in one go.

This gives you superb backlinks, because typically all or most of the blogs are on different servers with different IP addresses etc. So: Google can’t tell that all the blogs really belong to the same person and thinks you’ve got a really “natural” backlinking profile.

And consequently rewards your site with better rankings.

And this is where the latest update to Google’s algorithm really kicks in:

So far we know that Google does NOT like blog-farms because really, it’s very UNnatural backlinking (I’m trying to avoid the term “backlink spamming”, but that’s pretty close to what it is).

We also know that they updated their algorithm to punish anything spammy or scammy.

Here’s a GREAT example of how they got it completely wrong:

You may have heard of the WordPress plugin KeywordLuv.

What this allows you to do is find blogs that will give you a backlink in exchange for a high quality comment.

Which is the perfect solution for everybody involved: in order to leave a high quality comment, people have to interact with your blog, they have to leave an on-topic comment which means that future visitors find your blog even more interesting etc.

End-result: Google can show your site more often, as it is clearly relevant, on topic and interesting.

So, in order to find these blogs where you can leave a *high quality* comment, you simply search for the term “yourname@yourkeywords”, optionally followed by your main keyword as in the following picture:

fantastic internet marketing tool: keywordluv wordpress plugin

here I’ve searched for “yourname@yourkeywords” followed by my main keyword “tattoos” (incidentally, I’ve FINALLY figured out the real reason why it’s so darn difficult to sell anything tattoo related online, but that’s a story for another time)

Google then returns a long list of blogs which have the plugin installed.

Why?

Because when you install the plugin, it leaves a so-called “footprint” on your website, in this case “yourname@yourkeywords”.

Now, up until their last update, this returned a GREAT list of blogs where you could leave a high quality comment, and everybody was happy.

This incidentally was (note the use of past-tense) my #1 strategy for ranking new sites quickly: just get 5-10 of such comment backlinks a day for about a fortnight, and depending on the level of competition you’d then find yourself on page 1 or 2 of Google.

However, use of past-tense:

in the Google “Farmer” update of Feb (or so) 2011, something went horribly wrong with the results that are shown when you search for “yourname@yourkeywords”.

Rather than showing you tons of LOVELY, on-topic blogs which give you a backlink in exchange for your high quality comment, you now find mostly …. drumroll, are you ready for it? ….

… blogs that are part of blog-farms.

Now, they have no interest whatsoever to give you a backlink, because that’s what they’re getting paid for by their paid users.

And that’s ok, they got a membership, you pay for the backlinks and you get great backlinks.

But from Google’s perspective, this is horrible:

They really, really (I mean REALLY) want to stamp out spammy stuff and they’ll do everything they can to reward high quality “real” backlinks (instead of the bought) stuff, and unfortunately for them and for us, now all the return is the blogs in the blog-farms.

On the one hand you can argue that this is great even for us, because we can figure out which blog-network those blogs belong to and then join them (because they appear to rank and “be liked by Google” which is always a good thing).

But really I think everybody involved in leaving high quality comments (as opposed to the really spammy stuff) is losing access to one of the greatest internet marketing tools (keywordluv):

we can’t find them anymore (easily) using Google, meaning people don’t leave high quality comments, meaning those blogs which were really interested in a high quality conversation on the Internet may well lose rankings and Google is showing rubbish results.

Which is the exact opposite of what they want to achieve with their algorithm updates.

Ah well, with yourname@yourkeywords no longer a viable and easy option, what’s YOUR strategy for kickstarting a new site (in terms of backlinking?)

Cheers

Veit

{ 31 comments… read them below or add one }

Jonathan Sway April 18, 2011

I still think that UAW will have “some” value for links. It is a shame about keyword luv though.

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Sadie-Michaela Harris April 18, 2011

Thanks for share this Viet … :o )

Looking forward to hearing on another occasion why it is that anything to do with tattoos is a tricky niche to be successful in … not that it is a niche I want to crack… just because it has a reputation for being a ‘no go niche’! :o )

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Internet Marketing Tools April 19, 2011

ah, tattoos … here’s a hint: who *really* has tattoos? Not talking about a small percentage of people who have fashionable tattoos, but what target audience is responsible for the bulk of tattoos?
once you’ve got that target audience in mind, there is this weird concept of “if something is so expensive that I can’t really comprehend it anymore, then it’s ok buying” (like a 60″ TV). (or a custom made tattoo). But, if the expense if painful and easy to grasp for the mind (like $37 for access to an Online tattoo database), then the mind balances the pros and cons and … (at least in my opinion) comes up with a “NO” in most cases.

Veit

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Annie April 18, 2011

If you look at today’s recommended WSO, You’ll see what I am doing!
Just in the nick of time.

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Jeromy April 18, 2011

I have been experimenting with hiring someone from Fivver to create backlinks to my site. This has worked pretty good. There are a few things to consider when doing this,
You need to understand how they are getting backlinks. Social media is still all powerful, so social bookmarking, blog commenting, article directories. Be wary of services that create forum profiles and post your link there. They create thousands of them and I think this looks quite unnatural to Google. Further, after these accounts have sat dormant for awhile, they disappear, along with your link.
You should look for fivver users that have a feedback history. I have hired people that have no feedback, but for best practice it is best to look for people with high feedback.
You want to space methods and link building out. Too many links, too fast, can appear spammy to Google.

This method has worked well for me and it is far cheaper and takes less time than utilizing one of the tools referenced above.

JeromyS

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Jarret April 18, 2011

Sure, google doesn’t “like” the farms, and SEO Linkvine, but truth is, I don’t think the algorithm can “find” these sites yet. My sites quickly climbed to PR 2 in under 3mo, and were on first page of Google for lots of terms using SEO Linkvine as a publisher of the free content.

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Internet Marketing Tools April 19, 2011

Jarret,

I’m with you 100% – for now I really doubt Google can find these networks (unless people do really stupid things like build linkwheels inside the networks) — this one appears to be an unfortunate side-effect.
And yes, I’ve used many of those blog networks myself and I’m getting very good results — but, as always, I mix it up as much as possible with other backlinking strategies to hide any possible footprint as much as I can.

Veit

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Desmond April 18, 2011

Is it no longer viable or….is it just a temporary thing. Wouldnt testing over say 3 months or so give a clearer picture? I mean it just sucks….all these changes and a “do not” do list….grrrr. Ok I feel better lol.

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Tom April 18, 2011

Interestingly enough, when I searched Google for “yourname@yourkeywords tattoos” this post showed up in the #5 spot.

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Internet Marketing Tools April 19, 2011

lol, if only I could now monetize “yourname@yourkeywords tattoos”;-)

Veit

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Will April 18, 2011

nice post Viet! One step forward…2 steps back?

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gary April 18, 2011

use bing.com

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Jenny April 18, 2011

You’re forgetting that Google isn’t the only search engine out there.

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Martin Percival April 18, 2011

Hi Veit,

A couple of thoughts…

1) Try to find an unpunished keyphrase for Google (maybe “This site uses KeywordLuv”) – there seemed to be a few relevant sites when I redid your search from above.

Or….

2) Use yahoo to do the same job – put up with fewer links that are better targetted. The top 10 looked fine just using your original search.

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Doug April 18, 2011

Am I right in thinking that Google specifically tagged this WP plugin and the sites that use it as worthy of downgrading? Or did it get caught in the wide net of this update?
Does Google not like people finding places with the intention of linking, even if the comments are good ones? Do they just want you to interact on topics and have the links fall where they may?
Matt Cutts recently in his video on domain names cited Twitter and other sites that have no domain name value as online presences that others should aspire to. He implies they didn’t need to game the system to become popular. Is this the way Google is trying to guide everyone?

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Internet Marketing Tools April 19, 2011

Doug, good question. Of course Google isn’t going to tell us exactly what they’re doing.
My guess (but it’s a guess only) is that the keywordluv thing was/is an unwanted side-effect.
The old results were really useful (something Google wants), the new ones aren’t because you can’t leave a comment, no matter how on-topic/high quality it is.

I *think* Google is fine with people finding places to leave backlinks as long as it contributes to everybody’s ‘experience’.
The new results certainly don’t do that, hence my belief that this is an unfortunate ‘error’.

Cheers

Veit

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Jan April 18, 2011

hey Veit :-)

Real quick (as you’re a busy man who need to read fast ;-) )

I try to start with a press release and some bookmarking, which I think is fairly natural looking for a new site

Then…anything else goes really (article, video, web2 blogs, web2 profiles, blog comments, forum profiles etc)…as long as its kinda spread out or consistent. Hence…tools like Senukex are actually very handy as you can simulate all this! Use it responsibly I guess :-) But I hear your message.

Getting some web2 blogs built to link back to you, steadily, will also help. If its a WPblog, use WPSyndicator for example (instant Web2 links to your post).

And of course…the old fashioned rss submission of your feed…

What I still havent tried…starting with a few high PR links to your site…and then do the above…

All the best

Jan

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Internet Marketing Tools April 19, 2011

Hey Jan,

have you played with SENuke X yet? I haven’t (mostly because I hated the old version), but I’m hearing good stuff about the new version (finally actually user-friendly;-)

Veit

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Chris Munch April 18, 2011

I agree, many people are not quite aware how much Google hates blog farms. Unfortunately for Google these spam strategies can work very effectively, although I don’t think that is going to last.

I think the innacuracies in your KeywordLuv seaches was possibly an unintended side effect of Google’s Panda update, and maybe not even related. Google rolls out updates all the time.

You could still use Bing or Yahoo to find such sites, maybe their results bring up better sites?

Another plugin which does something similar is CommentLuv which also leaves a footprint you can search for.

Personally though I just leave comments on blog posts that I find interesting on higher profile blogs, ignoring things like nofollow. Interestingly many are saying nofollow links can still pass some form of ‘juice’ to boost your rankings and indexing and also a distinct lack of nofollows in your backlink profiles can damage your rankings (SEOMoz recently found this correlation from their own large dataset).

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Internet Marketing Tools April 19, 2011

Hey Chris,

yep, personally I don’t even look at dofollow/nofollow anymore.
A link is a link, some may be “better” than others, but heck…
and yes, as we’re going for “as natural as possible”, all “dofollow” would certainly not be very natural at all…

Veit

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Conrad Stuartc April 18, 2011

I’ve got a great strategy to find good quality blog backlinks, although most are not do-follow. Still, this works awesome :)

Install the SEOforFirefox plugin. This will give you data underneath each Google search result about their PR, links, etc.

Look up your main keywords.

Click on the ‘Page Links’ tab in the SEOforFirefox results for the topranking sites (your competitors).

This will give you the pages that are linking to that exact page (your competitors page) in the SERPs.

Look through the results and find the pages that link to your competitors which are blog posts (if you are in a good niche, you should find at least 3-5)

Leave comments on those blog posts.

This is a great strategy because you will be getting links from the same pages that are already giving your competitors good SERP rankings. Common sense tells us that these pages should give us some great link juice as well!

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Internet Marketing Tools April 19, 2011

Hey Conrad,

I like it, I like it a lot!

and yes, the dofollow/nofollow rule I ignore anyway, so it’s only the “natural” thing to do;-)

Veit

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alan April 19, 2011

Press releases,
Are a good way.
I dont think buying links is bad
And know one can proove otherwise really.

I think Who you buy links from is a bad choice.

If you buy links/do deals with related businesses
Hit your site with press releases for a couple of months

Post related content and have good unique content to syndicated content
Ratio.

Youll be ahead of most.
(Hat tip to K Baxter for this method)

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Lee Wheeler April 19, 2011

Google’s last shuffle was really strange. I “lost” a number of
good, well written, original sites somewhere into oblivion.

Sites that had been on pages 1 thru 4.

Looking at the new arrangement it appears that
only the top commercial sales pages for a products,
are ranking highly.

For example, a search for collapsiblewagon
produced a first page with one “page can’t be found”
and this: http://shopping.aol.com/collapsible-wagon-sports-folding-utility-cart/780221158
which is AOL but hardly very informative!

Try it yourself with various words. Last week I used,
dressing gowns and found that all of page 1 comprises top
London, Department stores. “Bed spreads” the same.

It seems that Google doesn’t want content, as it claims
but big commercial sites with flashy commercial displays.

I am extremely upset because I spent a lot of time
creating sites that complied with Google’s requirements;
only to find that all the work had been dumped to cater to
commercialism.

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Dave In Wales April 21, 2011

Hi Veit,
Seems like Google sees this as ‘Collateral Damage’ and ‘acceptable losses’ as there are always an innocent casualties due to friendly fire when Google adjusts it’s algo’s.
Brace yourself for the next one, only Google knows what it’s going to be.

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Kevin April 22, 2011

Try “cholesterol+commentluv” without quotes. In other words, your keyword+comentluv

Also Google the following:
“Your Keyword”+”commentluv”
in addition to:
“Your Keyword”+”keywordluv”

Kevin

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Kevin Flatt April 22, 2011

Ok here is some more for you:

E.g. KW used is “gardening”
inurl:gardening “This site uses KeywordLuv”

These sites have the KeywordLuv Wordpress Plugin

Make sure to post a relevant, non-spammy comment. Very important: your first comment will very likely be held for moderation. Don’t spam the comment box, or else your comment gets deleted.

Bookmark the top sites and go back to them every other day. Once you have your first comment approved, it’s a lot easier to increase your commenting rate. By posting a good comment the first time you have a few places to grab links every time you release your next niche site.

Kevin

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Brian@Buy TRX April 23, 2011

I am going to try utilizing Yahoo more but I must say searching for keywordluv or ‘this site uses keywordluv’ still seems to work for me, but I am kind of new at this so… thanks for all the comments everyone!

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PTA April 23, 2011

Dealing with serp algorithm changes is a inevitable part of being in search engine marketing. There are tons of other ways to drive traffic to a website or blog. Being creative and not putting all your eggs in Google’s basket is essential for long term success.

It is essential for serious internet marketers to step back and look at the bigger picture, recognizing the Google is NOT “the internet”. Building all your internet marketing efforts on what Google is doing is a BAD idea and you will end up holding the short end of the stick. You actually empower then to hurt you by doing so.

Find multiple sources of traffic and you will sleep MUCH better.

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Google Farmer & Panda Update May 4, 2011

I like to take things slow when I build links. Commenting on relevant blogs, or specific blog posts (like this post) is how I like to build links. I am not a fa of automation (yet), because, invariably, something will go wrong.

It appears that you do not care for products such as SE Nuke X, or SEO LinkVine.

I have heard good things about SENukeX (from a Black Hatter yesterday), but have not heard of anything about LinkVine since the Google Farmer or Panda Update.

Thanks for this post!

-Kevin

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Kevin Royster@Business Cash August 4, 2011

The panda update really crushed most spun and low value affiliate sites. Everything automated is getting hit. The best way around this is to make sure you have a ton of original content. Less ads and more posts.

For better or for worse SEO and google are evolving it is important to keep up with the next level of their business practices,

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